Motorstadt 2011 Suggestion Thread

[jetta9101]

As always, I'm sure people saw room for improvement yesterday. It's inherent to a show this size, there's no getting around it. From my perspective though, it went off pretty flawless - the weather, registration, parking, prizes...it all seemed natural.

I guess my one suggestion next year is to have a large sign at the entrance. I'd say about 50% of people missed the entrance, even with pointer cones. Even with me standing on the side of the road, pointing with my finger, people still missed it.

Otherwise, I think everything went really well.

[ericGTI]

fireworks, huge slip and slide, and free candy, lol
no i think this show seemed to work out pretty well, even comming down the dirt road wasnt that bad, it was really compacted so it wasnt like you were driving with huge dust clouds, the grass made all the cars look great as well as keep it a little cooler, there was lots of places to sit and be in the shade.
i'm sure there will be people who will complain about a lot of things, but it was almost like a mini H2o with everyone just hangin out in the grass havin a good time

[zeeuwvw]

it was almost like a mini H2o with everyone just hangin out in the grass havin a good time

My thoughts exactly. :beer:

I'm sure there will be people that find fault in it somewhere, but I'm having a hard time finding any.

[n0ftInc]

I think it would be cool to camp the night before instead, but it was a good show for sure..thanks all!

[Spykce]

Besides missing the entrance I had a great time. Forgot to bring some cash so when I ran out thrist set in but otherwise I had a great time! I liked the location a lot

[vramateur]

Even with me standing on the side of the road, pointing with my finger, people still missed it.

next year?
http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/PAB4254.jpg

[zeeuwvw]

I think it would be cool to camp the night before instead, but it was a good show for sure..thanks all!

I personally didn't want to camp the night before, wake up after very little sleep, walk around the show all day without a shower smelling like campfire and sweating Jack Daniels.

The other advantage to the after show camping is people that drank during the show won't have to drive home.

Maybe we'll just offer both next time?

[Heavy Fluid]

Hotlinking fail. :)

[eatworksleepdie]

Maybe we'll just offer both next time?

campers would have to get up and be packed up by 7:30am to setup for the show. .. It seems that pre-camping would get in the way for morning setup.

biggest thing I can think of has already been mentioned, and that's signage.. we didn't get around to that.

[xflowgolf]

yeah i honestly don't know that i can think of any improvement besides the signage as i also missed the entrance but that was a non-issue really.... just turn around. lol

the park setting was awesome. i loved the horseshoe shape laying with the shelter in the middle as it made it easy to walk to restrooms/registration, etc. no matter what segment you were at, and there also wasn't any category that was out in no man's land as is typical in parking lot settings.

i also want to say great job on getting through awards and raffles without dragging them out. you guys did a great job. i know this is supposed to be a suggestion for improvement thread, but I thought it was great. i also liked how for most cars awards you said the color and type of car, so it clued in the rest of us who won.

So there. put up a sign. stick a fork in it. :)

[atomicalex]

Ok. Next year we will have a sign.

[snobrdrdan]

Yup...I was one of the ones that missed the entrance too

I saw the park as I was driving by, but didn't really see the cars (because they're in the back of the park & you can't seem them from the road)

So yeah....not a big deal, but a sign or an arrow would've been nice

[goofydug]

I thought it was awesome, probably one of the best motorstadts yet.

To play off Nicks compliment of naming the color and type of car for awards, it would be cool if we used the projector to show a picture of the winning car as it's announced. I know, it would be a giant pain in the ass, but it'd be sweet.

[eyerolleddapiece]

would be cool to have name tags with the registrant goodie bags so we know who is who...

[SuperJason]

I loved the location and I had a great time.

My only thought s for next year . . . we had trouble hearing the announcements in the Mk1/Mk2 area. And the sponsor stands didn't seem to flow well (Thayer was front and center but SEA and Loctite were almost unfindable).

[justrelax]

You could have a seperate b3 Passat category... How am I supposed to win anything parked between Ollie and that CC?! :D:
Seriously, that was awesome. It was the first car show I've ever taken part in, and I can't even begin to praise how easy you guys made it. It was badass as promised, don't change a thing!

[DuceDuceExplorer]

And the sponsor stands didn't seem to flow well (Thayer was front and center but SEA and Loctite were almost unfindable).SEA choose to be where they were at we didn't asign vendor spots and loctite was there becuase of the benches the lady was putting on demos for groups of people all day long, so the attendees had a place to sit

[TheLinkster]

loctite was there becuase of the benches the lady was putting on demos for groups of people all day long, so the attendees had a place to sit

Holy crap, I had no clue Loctite was there!
I looked for the booth but didnt see it.
A specific Vendor area would be best.

[2deep]

would be cool to have name tags with the registrant goodie bags so we know who is who...

yeah that would be cool to have name tags. some people that really like voicing there positive/negative opinions when the owner is right next to the car might want to look around before talking. not that i care what my car is. just respecting others for what they put there heart and soul into it sharing with there buddies working on it. Blood, sweat, busted knuckles, four letter words, and drinkin beers. Then to have it all shot down from somebody that doesnt know the story of it. I heard a lot of crap blurting around, so i just said the most positive thing about the car. Then were looking at and it would turn there sights around. Thats my rant. So like come over and lets break in the vacuum and car cleaning kit already

[DuceDuceExplorer]

There was a specific vendor area....just saying loctite was in behind the palivian so people could sit at tables while she gave her presentation

[atomicalex]

B3 dude - you have to guarantee at least 4 B3s first!

psych!

[ojeeztutone]

I thought it was awesome, probably one of the best motorstadts yet.

To play off Nicks compliment of naming the color and type of car for awards, it would be cool if we used the projector to show a picture of the winning car as it's announced. I know, it would be a giant pain in the ass, but it'd be sweet.
Whatever you just wanted to see a big picture of your car. :beer: Looked damn good though!:wavey:

[AudiSport4000]

If possible keep this venue, it was outstanding! Having been to alot of car shows (most on asphalt) having this Motorstadt on a grassy surface was very welcome. The first Motorstadt I was at was 2004, which was fun, and I have been to almost every one since then, but this has been my favorite. I rolled in with a smile and left with one too!
So, while my suggestion is lame, I hope the venue is the same, or something very similar. Excellent work by all, the Indiana crew really raved about the event this year.

[20Cabrio01]

This was my first show so I don't really have much to compare it too. Had a great time, loved the venue and can't wait until next year.

I like the name tag idea cuz i don't know what any of you guys really look like.
And I probably would have missed the entrance too but I followed a sweet rado in.

just my 2 cents.

[roetershVW]

Amazing show! My only suggestion would be to have forum usernames on the placards that go in the car windows. There are so many cars and people that it would help with vehicle recognition. I would prefer this over name tags.

[ojeeztutone]

Mobilstadt?

[20bugsys]

As a vendor I wouldn't have minded getting a more specific "parking spot" for our booth, or at least a little more direction about which way to face, where the pathways are, etc. Maybe SEA wanted to be down the hill there, but I felt like they set up there because there wasn't much room left for them after everyone else filled in. Being one of the top billing sponsors, they should have had more exposure.

I'm going to suggest that all award winners be asked to drive their car up to the pavilion to accept their trophy and then rev their engines before exiting. That was my favorite part of the awards.

[superjario18]

The MKI section being sucked into one kinda was a bummer. I mean I know we didn't have a huge MKI section (maybe what 10 cars?), might be able to split it up maybe if there was enough of each type?

[MImk3]

Uhmmm, how many people scraped turning off hayes into the place. I did but I find it funny. Didnt bother me at all but maybe it did others?

[glsmaverick]

All in all I thought it was awesome. I have been to every Motorstadt and this was by far the best. The first year at VWoA was cool in a way but this place had a great vibe. I liked all the grass and the car locations were all convenient and easy to navigate. I do agree that one speaker or something should have been placed more toward the MKI/MKII area so you could hear announcments but other than that I dont really have any complaints.

I think I said something to Nicole as we were leaving but I dont remember what it was now. I do think that being able to just camp anywhere would be cool instead of having to move away from where the cars where (not a big deal, just a thought).

A sign would have been good. One off of 26 mile and one before the show entrance.

[atomicalex]

Uhmmm, how many people scraped turning off hayes into the place. I did but I find it funny. Didnt bother me at all but maybe it did others?

I was waiting for this.....:ugh!:

[GTX141]

When I first heard it wasn't going to be at the ex-HQ in Auburn Hills, I was a little skeptical. I mean, how can you not have a VW show at VW "HQ?" Boy, was I wrong. WAY better location than HQ for all the reasons already stated.

I like roetershVW's suggestion about screen names on the vehicle cards. I hardly know anyone's real name, so it'd be cool to have the association!

I'll also chime in on the MKI/II area and announcements. Need to have a speaker aimed at that section next year.

To be honest I never really even looked, but if they weren't there, trash cans liberally placed through out the display areas. If they were there, good job!!

Oh yeah, forgot to mention, excellent food pricing. $3 for dog, drink, and chips!! Awesome!

[vdubbin]

I wouldn't of changed a thing!

[detvw]

The MKI section being sucked into one kinda was a bummer. I mean I know we didn't have a huge MKI section (maybe what 10 cars?), might be able to split it up maybe if there was enough of each type?

This is always a problem. You might have noticed leftover trophies at the end of the awards. Those have to be paid for. The classes are set up to try and avoid that. This is why pre-registration is so important. If we see a trend in pre-reg, we will split the classes up, delete classes, etc..

[DuceDuceExplorer]

To be honest I never really even looked, but if they weren't there, trash cans liberally placed through out the display areas. If they were there, good job!!there were multiple trash and recycling cans placed liberally throughout the entire show area

[Heavy Fluid]

there were multiple trash and recycling cans placed liberally throughout the entire show area

Agreed. Good to see the recycling bins also.

I sat and thought about what could be different about the show. I can't think of anything. It was really well though out, and the execution was near perfect.

[hondanut_b16]

maybe not so far away so i dont have to worry about my car breaking down :) all n all it was a blast and i cant wait for next year.

[AsTrObOy]

I think we've got it pretty good guys. 7 years of running the show and we've worked out a ton of kinks. It went really well this year and in a new venue at that. I was really happy with it, happy we could bring the dog too. I know he had a great time meeting new people, new dogs, and just getting to be around us since we had been gone for 2 weeks from him.

[Heavy Fluid]

Yep, the whole dog thing was great. Mine loved being out there. I did notice a few huge piles of crap that were not attended to. Not sure if it was from the people at the show. If it was, you need to clean that up!!

[FatRings]

I there's enough dogs at the show to hold a Motorstadt Dog Show along with the car show. This is a great venue for cars, people, and dogs! Only suggestion would be to add some speakers aimed towards the Mk 1 area. The rest of the show grounds seemed to be well covered.

[Ron L]

This may be minor, but I did see plenty of trash cans and recycling cans, but was there a can for the returnables? Hate to think that money got thrown away.

[Sil3ntP8nd8]

free bug spray

[BranCKY3]

It was a good show, GREAT location, but after 6 hours out there it got a little boring...

[ericGTI]

live entertainment, maybe a polka band :D

[justrelax]

You guys obviously missed the 1:30 showing of Finding Nemo at my Passat...

[joezeeuw]

"fun" classes are always fun. We have a few but more could give more people a chance to win something, have a little fun, and kill time before actual awards.

Here's the Eurowerks list. Not saying we should copy it but I saw it and thougt it was a fun list.
1. Most Aggressive Stance
2. Best Original Patina
3. Ladies Choice
4. Best Engine Bay
5. Best Paint & Bodywork
6. Silliest Stretch
7. Best Airbag Setup
8. Disturbing the Peace
9. Best Vanity Plate
10. Oil Pan Sadist
11. Mr. Clean
12. Best Interior
13. Best Stereo
14. Running Man
15. Cop Magnet
16. OEM+
17. Sleeper
18. Best Original Paint
19. Most Original Concept

[20bugsys]

This may be minor, but I did see plenty of trash cans and recycling cans, but was there a can for the returnables? Hate to think that money got thrown away.

I sorted through every recycling bin and all of the returnable $ is being put back into Mive's general fund. Don't worry.

I have to sort through the recycling to separate plastic from metal from paper and glass. I then take it to my local recycling place. In that process, we pull all the returnables and turn them in.

Next year we might try to have separate containers for each type of recyclable item, but in all honesty, the sorting process is very easy and takes less than an hour. I will report on this more later in an official report to members.

[Capcrnch]

I sorted through every recycling bin and all of the returnable $ is being put back into Mive's general fund. Don't worry.

I have to sort through the recycling to separate plastic from metal from paper and glass. I then take it to my local recycling place. In that process, we pull all the returnables and turn them in.

Next year we might try to have separate containers for each type of recyclable item, but in all honesty, the sorting process is very easy and takes less than an hour. I will report on this more later in an official report to members.

Lisa and I were talking after the show about the recycling or lack of..
Against the main building, there was a recycling can and a garbage can.
The can marked "Plastic, paper, metal, death devices, etc NO FOOD" had food in it.
The can next to the recycling can, obviously for food or non-recycle items, was full of plastic, paper, metal and death devices.
It seems like many missed the point of recycling.

[justrelax]

I sorted through every recycling bin and all of the returnable $ is being put back into Mive's general fund. Don't worry.

I have to sort through the recycling to separate plastic from metal from paper and glass. I then take it to my local recycling place. In that process, we pull all the returnables and turn them in.

Next year we might try to have separate containers for each type of recyclable item, but in all honesty, the sorting process is very easy and takes less than an hour. I will report on this more later in an official report to members.

Even if it only takes an hour, that's a dirty job. Cheers to you :D:

[20bugsys]

Lisa and I were talking after the show about the recycling or lack of..
Against the main building, there was a recycling can and a garbage can.
The can marked "Plastic, paper, metal, death devices, etc NO FOOD" had food in it.
The can next to the recycling can, obviously for food or non-recycle items, was full of plastic, paper, metal and death devices.
It seems like many missed the point of recycling.

This is true, but I think there is less "food" in the recycling than the other way around. We had about 6 FULL bags of recycling to take in. This does not include the returnables. Out of the six bags of recycling we ended up with 1/2 a bag of trash from all of them.

It is a lot more in the other direction, and I don't sort through the garbage. Lots of recyclable stuff goes into the garbage bins. I'm not sure why. Sometimes it is general ignorance. Sometimes it might be blatant anti-eco mentality. Whatever it is, we will work on it more for future shows. I think a lot of it is education. The fact is, 95% of the waste we generate at these shows is completely recyclable. Chilifest is a little different.

I am trying to keep this stuff out of landfills. There is no reason why we need to pile the shit up and then come up with more raw materials to make more. Besides, the recyclable material is becoming more valuable. It costs a business less to buy recycled material than raw material these days so the demand is up. These days, almost anything that isn't food or styrofoam is recyclable.

For some reason this year, I didn't get all the cardboard boxes that the shirts and shwag come in. I think those ended up in the Austrian Society's dumpster. Not pointing any fingers. Tony assured me he tried to communicate that.

I get the stuff that MIVE as a community puts in my hands to take away. I'm not necessarily interested in being the garbage police running around yelling at people about "which bin" or whatever.

[Ollie18]

I did notice a few huge piles of crap that were not attended to

Like this one...I knew I took this pic for a reason!! :) That thing was almost as big as Franklin!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Ollie18/Motorstadt%207%20%20June%2012%202010/IMG_0357.jpg

:bowdown:highfive

[Heavy Fluid]

That came from Franklin.

LOL. Just kidding. He only hit it once, and I took care of it.

[AsTrObOy]

Tim you rock man. Thanks for doing that.

[jpakki]

I liked the parking lot at the old VW HQ. The park was nice but not for cars. The bathrooms sucked as well. Just my two cents.Otherwise, this show was good in regards to the cars.

[TOreDEFINE]

I saw the Apex Cones at the entrance of this. That's when I knew this road HAD to be it. Clever! Also, this was my first show, but I thought the location was stellar. Very fitting and comfortable.

[SuperJason]

The grass kept the heat way down at the show, compared to the parking lot at VWoA. And the shade of the trees was great. The location was fantastic.

[SuperJason]

These days, almost anything that isn't food or styrofoam is recyclable.


A lot of styrofoam/polystyrene is recyclable now. At least it has the #6 recycle logo on the bottom. And food is compostible. That's a lot of work for an event like Motorstadt, but easily done at home.

[hondanut_b16]

"fun" classes are always fun. We have a few but more could give more people a chance to win something, have a little fun, and kill time before actual awards.

Here's the Eurowerks list. Not saying we should copy it but I saw it and thougt it was a fun list.
1. Most Aggressive Stance
2. Best Original Patina
3. Ladies Choice
4. Best Engine Bay
5. Best Paint & Bodywork
6. Silliest Stretch
7. Best Airbag Setup
8. Disturbing the Peace
9. Best Vanity Plate
10. Oil Pan Sadist
11. Mr. Clean
12. Best Interior
13. Best Stereo
14. Running Man
15. Cop Magnet
16. OEM+
17. Sleeper
18. Best Original Paint
19. Most Original Concept


Those would be awesome.

[oldscool]

Black shirts.

[eUrOtRaSh]

those extra "fun" classes made by joezeeuw sound great. we should do all those! :)

[TheLinkster]

Black shirts.

No, BLUE!

[oldscool]

No, BLUE!

But blue isn't black...

[eyerolleddapiece]

But blue isn't black...

and we DID have blue...it was light blue, but blue all the same. Black would be pimp

[oldscool]

I pretty much only wear black shirts now adays. All other shirts look like cap because of stains. The only shirts I have that are not black, and still look nice, are dress shirts...

[DuceDuceExplorer]

there was gray, blue, green and yellow....craig stop being such an emo "i need black i only wear black" either you want to support the club and buy a shirt (no matter the color) for the sake of support the club or you don't....we get it you only wear black....

[Castle4kq]

there was gray, blue, green and yellow....craig stop being such an emo "i need black i only wear black" either you want to support the club and buy a shirt (no matter the color) for the sake of support the club or you don't....we get it you only wear black....

I vote that we get 1 pink shirt for Adam next year so he can show his support :D:

[DuceDuceExplorer]

I vote that we get 1 pink shirt for Adam next year so he can show his support :D:jeff this is me u know i don't give a ****....did u see the shirt i was wearing on friday?

[roetershVW]

jeff this is me u know i don't give a ****....did u see the shirt i was wearing on friday?

http://rlv.zcache.com/im_so_homophobic_i_cant_even_touch_myself_tshirt-p235212344588446014trlu_210.jpg

????

[roetershVW]

^^ Don't go getting all emotional on me now buddy. You know I'm just being silly :D:

[DuceDuceExplorer]

i'd wear that just to see peoples reactions...you buy it in a men's XL and i wear it on campus and take pics

[superjario18]

Back on topic =p
I have a suggestion for a way to truly judge the lowest. As it was quite hard to tell in the grass make all the contestants for that (say the judges pick the cars that they want to see) and make them drive to a level concrete section and do a visual / measure on the car.

I do say bags [as they are neat as hell] are kinda cheating lol, maybe add a rule that you have to be able to move at that height from your spot; Or even had to pull in your spot that low?

I have seen vehicles on bags that can drop frame and literally lift their wheels off the ground about an inch or so. I know what I suggested is kind of a lot of work, I think it would cut down on a bit of the static vs bag arguments.

[meijerbrantm]

the problem with that, is bags/hydraulics may be cheating in your eyes, but int order to make it sit on the frame, while tucking tire is not simple, raised strut towers and all those shenanigans have to be done... i say bags are not cheating and much more work than a static drop from coilovers... heck, everyone and there mother seems to have coilovers, so once i got to the show i can just slam it down to the ground by readjusting the coilovers... no?

[ojeeztutone]

^^It is not as if this is some vortex show, not a lot of people had bags anyways. Plus like jonathon said. That shit ain't simple. Plus the truck im pretty sure will drive all the way down. :P

[n1k3lz]

I'm just bummed I missed it. Gotta get on top of my game.

^
the low contest, even though I wasn't there. I think bags/hydros aren't really cheating, but I agree to maybe have a different category. But it would really depend on how many with the set up were there. And instead of grass, a more solid platform you could be on, would be the best solution to measure correctly. Even being on dirt would not be ideal. IMO